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2016-05-09 23:49:55 -0700
Economic direct action is what we need, lets vote with our spending’s, a good way, start with boycotting Chinese merchandise, for there support for
by signing a worth less piece of paper that they are anyway not considering to adhere to ( remember the coal deal at Thumbler Ridge). China has 2x more
potential then Canada, so let them use there own and as far as our government, lets get ready to build up an other party as a third power, in a coalition, to send the present government packing in less then a Year and yes, lets not make a mistake to replace one no good with an other no good, it is time that we have a coalition that has to be responsible with a strong, fair and democratic leader, it has worked well for many nations. The Swiss in particular and to stop to have big business buy the politicians an or union ..same thing. This is the first item on the agenda . Canadian
send elsewhere is doing the pollution for others in our country . It will ruin a fair price policy for domestic Energy as there is always a way to artificially jack up the cost, by pretending that they don,t need the local market and we better pay what the other guys are willing to pay ( nice bluff).
We don,t need a referendum, even so on the coast and especially in Squamish, the No
would dominate, we have to speak with our pocket book and with the support of right minded non corrupt individuals, to engage them to get involved and the re-emergence of endless talk of the so called sophisticated , educated, professional talkers, is not what this country needs, less talk and more action. Lets stop buying Chines stuff and let them know, until they rescind that empty promise to buy
, we will not buy Chinese stuff.. there are many other nations, maybe a bit more cost, but worth making a point.
2016-05-09 15:46:47 -0700
Dear Editor …..Answer to the news today about the announcement having just read about China buying Woodfiber
.. Here is my solution and reply to them, Please make the following announcement.
People of Squamish , people of BC, People of Canada…..
They pollute our country by us having to provide Canadian fracked
to China …. those against destruction and against pollution in Canada ….. immediately stop buying Chinese merchandise right away, until they annul there deal.
2016-05-08 19:43:24 -0700
I saw an angry man tearing down the posters about May 14th. the ones he removed were in the grassy area right to the south of where the farmer’s market happens in the summer. You probably need to repost here and in other locations, if this was any indication of what’ shappening.
Tahnks for all your advocacy!
2016-05-02 21:26:43 -0700
Thought you might find this information useful.
Markets Breaking Down, Reform Comes Next
Unmoored pricing, declined delivery, mothballed capacity, asset sales, write downs.
A Pan-Asian Gas Pipeline (at left, above) provides Asia a much longer, lasting, flexible, economically-valuable energy infrastructure than single-generation, greenhouse gas-intensive Liquid Natural Gas.
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market is in multi-hundred billion dollar chaos. Counter intuitively, that’s good news for the future.
The reason? The intra-Asian
industry is a result of government capture by fossil fuel interests. It makes no sense on reasonable economic grounds.
The distorted results are now on display: bloated construction costs in Australia, environmental degradation in the Great Barrier Reef), overcharged buyers in Japan and uncounted/uncosted carbon emissions everywhere.
oversupply is creating an active Asian
‘spot market’ to the horror of insiders. It’s stripping the veil from this overpriced, misinvested industry.
A painful economic process of adjustment has several years (and bankruptcies) to run. It won’t be pretty. It could have been avoided.
Had proper economics been applied from the start, an intra-Asia
industry wouldn’t have taken root. Natural gas pipelines are better, cheaper and longer-lasting option.
Proper application of ‘demand-pull’ economic analysis would have shown this. Instead, the
industry sought ‘supply-push’ economic rents created by technological ‘lock in.’ The bet’s now gone bad.
The reason: for intra-regional trade,
has fundamental flaws.
Renewables are rapidly achieving cost parity with natural gas. This undermines the rationale for long-term investment in natural gas, let alone a grossly expensive, single-purpose bespoke infrastructure to deliver it.
Ignoring LNG’s carbon emissions distorts LNG’s poor investment economics. But nstead of making rational calculations based on all economic factors, the
industry flattered LNG’s economics by excluding carbon.
Adding carbon prices to LNG’s ‘life-cycle’ emissions raises costs dramatically. Faced with this problem, the
industry excluded carbon emissions (and their costs) as irrelevant. They won’t be irrelevant for long.
Global carbon market reform in the next five years will deliver broader coverage and much higher prices (to $20-$50 per tonne). These will expose LNG’s poor carbon economics.
Capital costs of pipelines are lower than for
. For intra-regional transport of natural gas, pipelines are a better deal on both economic and technology grounds. Government capture— however — tilted decisions toward more
, a more lucrative business for industry.
That bet’s now going wrong. The result is an albatross industry. The evidence: an oversupplied regional Asian
market in which spot market prices have fallen so low they now more than offset financial penalties of failing to honor long-term delivery contracts.
This, in turn, is rapidly breaking down the industry’s preferred sinecure of long-term pricing.
It’s the horror scenario for
insiders. They deliberately excluded key variables from their economic analysis. These include carbon pricing and the advantageous multifuel advantages of pipelines.
The current mayhem will mark the evolution of a regional
spot market priced on ‘demand pull’ signals generated by consumers instead of ‘supply-push’ factors favoring producers. That’s the market Asia should have gotten all along.
In response, some
shipping capacity and upstream natural gas production will be mothballed. This is already happening in Australia’s overbuilt
export port of Gladstone, Queensland.
Billions in write downs will follow in time. This will lead to revised calculations about the LNG’s market’s economic value. That in turn will lead to consideration of alternative delivery methods for natural gas that are less capital intensive and less vertically integrated.
An ideal new system would enable natural gas to be ‘pulled’ into the market as needed in response to demand instead of ‘pushed’ into the market by companies with expensive, bespoke, infrastructure to pay off.
At present, the problem is one of vertical integration.
producers mine the gas, build the
shipping facilities and
ships. They’ve bet the farm on everything going right with all three all the time.
By contrast, an open-access, common-carrier, multi-fuel pipeline would be built, operated and maintained by an unrelated middle party. Financing of natural gas transport would be divorced from the economics of upstream production and downstream sale.
A pipeline would sell access to all comers, changing transport prices in response to market demand. The example here is the United States. There, an open-access, common-carrier merchant pipeline network is open to all comers.
It features its own ‘spot’ market price (aka the Henry Hub) quoted on a day-to-day, moment-to-moment basis.
The future of global energy markets lies in networks such as this. They have proved themselves in telecommunications (the internet), electricity (Europe’s increasingly integrated grids) and now natural gas (the US merchant pipeline system).
Furthermore, ‘just in time’ inventory management lowers the albatross of idled, high-fixed cost investments — such as long construction lead time
facilities that are under utilized once finished. The only winners of that game are construction contractors.
This generates much better price signals than 20-year lock in, the model favored by the
industry on the grounds such certainty is required to justify large initial investment.
To learn more, visit www.grenatec.com
Grenatec is a research organization studying the viability of a Pan-Asian Energy Infrastructure (
It would serve two billion people and one-third of the global economy
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2016-04-16 12:52:33 -0700
2016-04-10 13:16:16 -0700
I sent the attached email to Catherine McKenna:
Dear Min. McKenna: I must concede that I am shocked by your decision to approve the Woodfibre
project, in contrast to your strong stance re: addressing climate change in Paris. It just does not add up.
First, the project partner, behind all the holding company smokescreens, is Sukanto Tanoto, the Indonesian businessman called, in one report, “one of the planet’s worst environmental plunderers”, with a long history of rainforest destruction and human rights offences.
Second, the ecosystem of Howe Sound has just recovered from the disastrous effects of the Woodfibre pulp and paper manufacturing enterprises that devastated the ocean environment with decades of toxic discharges. To introduce a massive hazard into this freshly rehabilitated site is, at very least, disrespectful to the efforts of all the people who have brought this positive change about.
Third, the economy of the area is rebuilding with non-fossil fuel, green tourism businesses that are exceeding, in terms of local employment and revenue, the benefits of the fossil-fuel-based industries they are replacing. To suddenly revert, once again, to a high-capital cost, remotely operated, low-employment business is a tragic misdirection of jurisdictional responsibility.
And finally, this project, by its very nature, goes against the forceful and apparently heart-felt pronouncements you made in Paris a few months ago. Calling for a 1.5 degree limit on global warming, and acknowledging that we must move away from dependence on fossil fuels, is all very well. But then, as a concrete action, approving a massive
project, when the high leakage rates from fracked gas are widely acknowledged, the extreme impact of methane as a
is widely known, and the movement to “leave it in the ground” is gaining momentum worldwide, makes it clear that the rhetoric was nothing more than empty words.
Has the government withdrawn its subsidies to the fossil fuel industry? No.
Has the government put out a concrete scheme for supporting renewable energy development? No.
Is the government now moving away from taking concrete steps to limit
As someone who contributed to the Liberal Party during the last election process, I am deeply, deeply disappointed.
I hope something will happen soon to restore my faith in your government’s approach to global climate change.
R.Warren Bell BA
Past Founding President,
(Canadian Association of Physicians for the Environment
Founding President, WA:
(Wetland Alliance: The Ecological Response
Rural Preceptor, University of BC
Salmon Arm, BC
2016-04-07 10:26:47 -0700
April 5, 2016
(I’ve sent this letter to the appropriate offices)
To whom it may concern,
Like thousands and thousands of people living in BC who have voiced objection to permitting an
plant in Woodfibre I implore you to rescind permission.
The proposed water cooling system has been declared illegal in California because of the harm it does to sea life. How much more harm it would do in our Howe Sound within it’s narrow confines. The Vancouver Observer and the Globe and Mail have both reported danger to the herring spawn should this course be followed.
It’s not clear how ferry traffic, not to mention recreational boat traffic could deal with the huge
tankers and their entourages. Does tourism count for nothing.
facility just means more fracking. How could the economics makes sense? How the heck can you justify using large amounts of fresh water and contaminating it to produce energy from a non-renewable resource the value of which is declining?
I understand that jobs paying a decent living wage for Canadians is a priority. I grew up in Woodfibre and Dad used to say that the smell of the pulp and paper mill was the smell of bread and butter. However This world is on the cusp of change and I believe that those ‘living wage jobs’ must come from environmentally responsible sources. . . Thank you for your attention,
Sharon Russell, Sechelt BC
2016-03-31 09:12:07 -0700
I want to attend the presentation to cover for The Squamish Chief at 7 p.m. but I don’t need to get there earlier, i.e. for the dinner, so I didn’t want to
on the site.
2016-03-22 09:05:18 -0700
I need your postal code to send some signed petitions to you.
2016-03-15 14:27:39 -0700
To get wider exposure to people signing the Howe Sound Declaration, why not consider using “change.org”?
2016-03-02 10:39:17 -0800
It seems there is a problem with your site.
It won’t let me sign and yet it says Thank You for signing??
2016-03-01 15:58:37 -0800
Hi – I am unable to unfollow this petition (Sorry, we couldn’t find your account. To stop following this page, please sign in and click the X next to follow reactions.) I signed the petition but I do not not want further notifications or email of any kind. Thank you.
2016-02-29 11:18:17 -0800
Angie here at Radio-Canada’s radio afternoon show Boulevard du Pacifique. Is there a french-speaker out there willing to share their thoughts on Woodfibre
? We are looking at a possible interview tonight (monday feb 29th) around 4pm to talk about your thoughts and concerns. I’m at email@example.com. Contact me
if interested. Merci.
2016-02-20 23:38:35 -0800
I sent out the request via my personal email for friends to sign your petition, however your link doesnt lead you to the petition, it says sign now, but nowhere to sign!!!!
2016-02-14 12:28:03 -0800
: May 1st is
office or court house at
. Every town and city across
– posted on Facebook and gaining a lot of support over last week from protest groups and individuals .
2016-01-04 14:09:49 -0800
Hello, I heard there was dirty work being done to pass bear trophy hunting in BC. Could you please direct me a petition regarding this issue.
Thank you for all of your hard work.
2015-12-06 19:29:57 -0800
For Eoin Finn
——- Forwarded Message
Subject: Safety and Security of Hazardous
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 18:55:14 -0800
From: James Ronback
To: Delta Optimist , Chief Bryce Williams , Honourable Carla Qualtrough , Vicki Huntington
, Doug Stout , Mayor Lois Jackson , Honourable Mary Polak , Enviroinfo [
] , Catherine McKenna Minister of Environment and Climate Change , Honourable Marc Garneau – Minister of Transport , Honourable Justin Trudeau
CC: Mayor and Councillors of Delta
Editor: Delta Optimist et al,
Below you will find my response to Doug Stout’s letter “
cannot contaminate water or soil”, on 4 December.
System Safety Engineer (retired)
1530 Kirkwood Road
604 948 1589
6 December, 2015
To: Editor Delta-Optimist et al,
Justin Trudeau, Prime Minister
Chief Bryce Williams, Tsawwassen First Nation,
Carla Qualtrough, Minister of Sport and Persons with Disabilities, MP, Privy Council,
Marc Garneau – Minister of Transport
Catherine McKenna – Minister of environment and Climate Change
, Minister of Environment
Mayor Lois Jackson and Delta Council
Subject: Safety and Security of hazardous
transportation and processing near residential areas in Delta
Re: “LNG can’t contaminate water or soil” by Doug Stout, VP Market Development, FortisBC, 4 December.
Doug Stout in his letter to the Editor conveniently ignores the safety and security aspects of the transportation of liquefied natural gas (
) via super tankers and the storage and refrigeration facilities and the huge amount of energy from the Site C dam (13, 14) required to convert methane (natural gas) to a liquid after it is delivered via a pipeline.
Living close to this proposed
facility will be more hazardous than living next to a nuclear power station.
One only needs to google the following string of key words (without quotes) “safety security hazard transport LNG” to find ominous reports on the multiple hazards of processing and transporting
. The amount of energy stored in these facilities and tankers is enormous. It’s equivalent to several Hiroshima atomic bombs. The most serious hazard it a fuel vapour air explosion (1) that can be devastating. Although this may be a rare high consequence and possibly a terrorist event (21), Tsawwassen First Nation community could be wiped off the map and its mall and thousands of homes would be destroyed by the powerful blast wave and intense heat radiation (14).
Most tankers have only a single engine which is a single point of failure that can result in loss of propulsion and steering leaving the ship floundering as a dangerous hazard to navigation (9). The worldwide tanker fleet of 10,000+ is experiencing at least two full losses of power or steering per day, and probably more than ten. If this fleet were twin screw, properly implemented, this number would be cut by a factor of one thousand (10, 11).
Between 1944 and 2006 there were 52 major incidents (5, 6) in which 177 people died (6). I invite your readers to view the YouTube presentation by Eoin Finn on the “Impacts on Howe Sound from the
Industry.”(8). If the Algerian gas plant that was attacked by militants in 2013 had exploded in 2013, “it would have killed and destroyed anything within 5 kilometers or further.”. (12).
The provincial and federal governments do not have any guidelines or regulations for locating hazardous industries away from residential areas. Without this type of guidance (2, 4) the Fraser River Delta is becoming another clogged Amsterdam like industrial harbor impacting all the nearby residents and its fragile environment (20).
terminals can pose significant risks and impacts to coastal regions and communities. It is critical that provincial governments, local agencies and public stakeholders participate and inform themselves in every step of the
port licensing process (7). The Tsawwassen First Nation’s
project will be subject mainly to federal environmental review process which may be delegated to Port Metro Vancouver and harmonized with the BC Environmental Assessment Office. This is like the fox (
) guarding the hen house.
projects must be approved by many federal and provincial agencies, thus, there are many opportunities for public input. An informed public will foster equally informed decision making (18).
How will our dedicated politicians ensure that this will happen?
Our safety and security (3) are much too important to be left to corporations and politicians alone. We have a right to be properly informed and adequately consulted with respect to all the hazards and cumulative risks of this proposed project (15) before an informed decision can be made.
The Tsawwassen First Nation must protect their ancestral lands for their grandchildren instead of embarking on such hazardous projects near their homes. Some risks to public safety cannot be mitigated to an acceptable level. (16, 17)
Jim Ronback, B.A.Sc.
System Safety Engineer (retired)
1530 Kirkwood Road,
Tsawwassen, BC, V4L 1G1
604 948 1589
(Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapor Explosion) Demonstration – How it Happens Training Video
2) Guidance on Risk Analysis and Safety Implications of a Large Liquefied Natural Gas (
) Spill Over Water
, SAND2004-6258, December 2004
Safety and Security
Center for Energy Economics, November 2006
, March 2007
6) Cabrillo Port
Appendix C3 C3-1 Chronological List of
Accidents, C3-2 Marine Safety and Security Requirements, C3-3 Design and Safety Standards Applicable to Natural Gas Projects
7) States Can Affect Federal Deepwater Port
A Case Study Involving the Deepwater Port Act and the Coastal Zone Management Act,
Linda Krop, 10-Oct-2011
8) Eoin Finn speaks about Impacts on Howe Sound from the
9) “Worldwide we are experiencing over 5000 total loss of power casualties per year.”
2008 Tanker Loss of Power Casualties, Jack Devanney,
10) The current large (over 10,000 tonne deadweight) worldwide tanker fleet is experiencing at least two full losses of power or steering per day, and probably more than ten. If this fleet were twin screw, properly implemented, this number would be cut by a factor of one thousand.” [The Argument for Twin Screw Tankers, Jack Devanney, Center for Tankship Excellence,
, firstname.lastname@example.org , September 20-21, 2007
11) “Twin Screw and more power redundancy would additionally help to drastically improve low speed maneuverability and the pilot’s ability to correct a mistake” p. 118
Second International Workshop on Risk-Based Approaches in the Maritime Industry, 5-8 May 2008
12) At least 37 hostages killed in Algeria gas plant standoff, prime minister says.
By Amir Ahmed,
, January 23, 2013
13) Is the Site C dam’s electricity destined for
Volume: 32 Issue: 4, 2014
By Judith Lavoie Writer, DeSmog Canada
and Site C aligned for perfect storm
By Keith Baldrey, Global News, July 31, 2015
15) Tsawwassen First Nation
Chamber of Shipping of British Columbia, Lower Mainland
Accessed: 6 Dec 2015
16) Acceptable Risk
17) Risk Acceptance Criteria or “How Safe Is Safe Enough”
on the Fraser: what should be in the EA?
Dangers and Possible Disasters
20) Canaport pleads guilty to killing 7,500 birds that flew into burning flare at gas facility
November 5, 2015
21) Are natural gas ships “boat bombs” for terror?
2015-11-20 17:07:26 -0800
I ment 4 not 40 for rsvp
2015-11-11 15:35:51 -0800
Thank you for your updates on Federal Environmental Review deficits for
. In addition to the concerns you expressed, there is room for demanding complete financial transparency on the anticipated earnings of the principal beneficiary in Singapore, under the existing Canada-Singapore Tax treaty concurrent with Singapore’s ongoing 10 year tax holiday for new
in Canada will easily operate at a net tax free loss.
There exists a need to “open the books” so that those who live in and around Howe Sound can fully examine the size of the principal beneficiary’ s anticipated tax free offshore income , versus the value of the benefits offered in return at Howe Sound’s delicate risk.
The new Federal government remains the last line of defense after the apparent provincial government give-away of Northern BC (for fracking) the aquifers between Northern BC and Squamish (for pipelines), and Howe Sound environmental sovereignty itself….for the offshore enrichment of Mr. Sukanto Tanoto.
2015-10-13 05:28:57 -0700
Please use the ‘Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration’ web site, a division of the United States Department of Transportation, to search for pipeline company’s ‘Violations’. For example, in the search engine for Spectra Energy Violations, I came up with 59 violations that Spectra Energy has been cited for.
2015-10-12 14:11:50 -0700
The .gov link you sent us to, is very user unfriendly from an iPhone 5s. Is it by design? As most young people use smartphones. We need to make our gov work the way it’s constituents choose to work not the other way around.
Thor, Dorte Froslev
2015-10-07 10:34:20 -0700
Oct. 24th is not a Wednesday.
I might be interested in the workshop but where and when?
2015-09-06 16:17:42 -0700
so so sorry I am away
I am absolutely in support..no pipeleines, no tankers, no
, no fracking and yes to alternate, non /fossil energy…please put me high on your list as an involved supporter! susan
2015-08-19 10:27:49 -0700
Hi there I am a resident of Squamish and am becoming increasingly concerned with the industrial development happening in our community.
I seems like we are not heard and construction and test drilling in the estuary are going forward with little public awareness. I want to help to change that. I spend a lot of time in the waters of the squamish river and estuary and am seeing more oil on the water than ever before, as well as stumbling across unmarked construction sites in the area. I have a lot of questions about who is doing what, and if we are being told any truths. I am willing to help in any way I can to protect our home.
2015-07-19 12:31:00 -0700
David Suzuki Foundation for Camp Suzuki : Howe Sound, happening this August on Gambier Island. We are seeking placements for the campers aged 18 – 30 to engage with their local community and share their passion for conservation. If you would like to offer volunteers to join you part time from September to February this year, please contact me and I will connect you with the project lead for further questions. For information about Howe Sound Camp Suzuki, please visit the site below. All camp registrations are confirmed for a full attendance with an incredible learning program.
After camp, participants apply their newfound skills and knowledge through a six-month, part-time placement with a local community organization that works for the betterment of Howe Sound.
2015-07-14 02:14:54 -0700
Hello Melyssa, Here are the contacts and links we mentioned.
For climate justice,
Metropolitan Vancouver Alliance’s Deborah Littman:
Vancouver District Labour Council’s President Joey Hartman:
Just transition to protect jobs and the environment
“Fear at work: Job blackmail, labor, and the environment”
2015-06-24 10:51:11 -0700
I am very disappointed in the timing you chose for the Save Our Sound day and the flotilla up Howe Sound. For an awful lot of boaters, your timing is poor, ….. a large percentage (like myself) are away on vacation or up the coast for the summer. In future, if you want boats in your flotilla, plan your event for June or September, before or after cruising season, not right in it.
posted about this on
2015-05-19 12:44:33 -0700
2015-05-19 12:43:57 -0700
This paper provides another way of predicting collision-related spills in Salish Sea, English Bay and near Squamish and WoodFibre.
Risk of a collision-related oil spill on the Gulf of Finland could up to q uadruple in the future, May 04, 2015
2015-05-11 09:50:59 -0700
please email me regards May 19 meeting around changes to port rule. I am looking for Dr. Finn.